The Guild of Pagans

[medianduel]: kewl .... i need to research the druidic ways again ..... (i haven't practiced in over a year.... family issues)

[Lewis of Llynn]: off topic, who thinks we should have a page here that is for questions and answers? Like, someone wants to know something about the Craft, they ask it, and whovever knows the answer can help. Sort of a pagan FAQ, except you create the questions and answers.

[Delladreing]: that would be a good idea, but i thot that was wot the wiccan room was for?

[Lewis of Llynn]: well, isn't that just for discussion and stuff? I was thinking just Q&A.

[Delladreing]: oh right like a proper one yea thats a good idea

[Mystic Beauty]: Hello, you may call me Mystic, I have been interested in becoming Wiccan or Paggan for about a year now. Can someone tell me a bit about them?

[Delladreing]: what would you like to know? theres sum info in the guild book of shadows by the way if you want to look at that

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: oh and www.wicca.com

[black lilly]: oooo....can i join?

[Nere]: only if your serious in your intentions to learn about Wicca, ect........if you are, then go right ahead!

[black lilly]: yea, me and some of my friends are pegan...

[Nere]: then by all means add your name to the members list...

[black lilly]: thx!

[Nere]: Okay a question to all.....should we have a wiki just for the members list?? 

[medianduel]: i think that might be a good idea

[Nere]: okay......i want as many opinions on the above question as i can ppl!!   (ps......i made the Pagan FAQ page)

[Delladreing]: i agree its a good idea

[black lilly]: i think so to

[Fé]: Me too. ^^

[Nere]: okay.....Guild Members

[Fé]: Woot! I hope you guys had a good Imbolc/Lughnassadh!

[Delladreing]: yea same here!!

[Lewis of Llynn]: yeah, pretty much... I'm new to the craft, so I didn't really do a proper ritual, but I think I did ok... My whole family wanted to get involved, which was a little annoying, and I think the whole thing was a little melodramatic, but overall... (not that anyone asked for an essay on it... heheheh...

[Lewis of Llynn]: yeah, pretty much... I'm new to the craft, so I didn't really do a proper ritual, but I think I did ok... My whole family wanted to get involved, which was a little annoying, and I think the whole thing was a little melodramatic, but overall... (not that anyone asked for an essay on it... heheheh...)

[One with no lips HaS no room to speaK]: happy imbolc!! I LOVE WAYNE!! MUAHAHA!! cant wait til our handfasting... *sigh*

[Fireblade K'Chona]: What did your family want to do?

[Anna-Rebecca]: it's nice that your family wanted to be involved though, many people's are much less accepting. Imbolc was good fun for me, I had a friend round, so no loneliness for anna ;)

[Lewis of Llynn]: Well, my Mom considers herself pagan, and she always wants to be "in on my life," if you know what I mean. Basically she would just follow my lead. Then my sister, who can't be left out of anything just needed to do it to, so my dad went "what the heck, everyone else's doing it," so he joined in too. And I know what you mean about less accepting people. I have a friend who wants to practice Wicca, but her family is devout catholic and won't let her practice until she's 18. And one time in art class, I was painting pentacles for a project, and people kept (jokingly, but still...) calling me a satanist. I kinda pissed my off...

[Fireblade K'Chona]: *pats head* It's ok...don't get mad...they're just stupid to think it's funny. Tell them that it's important to you and you don't appreciate jokes. If they're decent human beings, they'll respect that.

[Lewis of Llynn]: They are decent... they're only joking... it's not them so much that makes me mad, it's not their fault if thats what they associate a pentacle with, it's the fault of society. It just reminds me how many bigots there are out there.

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Ah.

[Nere]: *points up at posts* "Butterfly Wings"

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: hey did you guys aver hear of i believe it is www.bettybowers.com ? this lady thinks that there should be a burning stake in each tpwn. she thinks that she is the best cristian in the world. i dont know if the site adress is correct cause my wiccan friend told me about it. just the thought makes me sick that someone can be so ignoratnt.

[Mordigen]: FYI  that site is a joke, it's not serious. My dad worked on it for a while with his design company

[Lioness2]: LMOA....that site is hilarious..."so close to jesus, he brings people back from the dead just so I can have the last word..."  Superb! Love this site, have now subscribed...LOL

[Augury]: hello. um... eh. .... i really want to talk to somebody about witchcraft or wicca or... gah, i suck at talking. just, some one message me so i can ask them questions... please?

[Nere]: you could try using the FAQ page..... Pagan FAQ....thats what its there for....no pressure...:)

[Fé]: Heyza, [Augury]. Welcome to the random-commenty place! *huggles*

[black lilly]: .....

[Nere]: GO VOTE IN!!!<poll:14418>!!!!!!!!!!FOR THE PHOENIX CONTEST WINNERS!!!!

[Davorah]: I love that "Butterfly Wings" it was awesome!

[Nere]: yeah....Its cool :)

[Cati Stormweaver]: have any of you ever been to www.truechristan.com ? i just went there and they had a whole page where they described pagans, and it was so offensive!!! they kept saying that we all worship satan!!! and that we eat chlidren and cast curses, and it racist, because they say something about a "Nigger Loving Leberal law" now i hate christianity even more, its so fucking corrupt!!!! and they think their all perfact!!! and another thing they said on there was they we chosen by god and their never wrong, and the women burned on the stake, were evil because they are never wrong!!! They just dont know what we are and what we woship and do unless their are a Pagan,

[Cati Stormweaver]: sorry i had to post that, i hate christainiy!!!!!

[Nere]: doesn't bother me......

[Nimune]: no worries mate *grins at Nere*

[Nere]: *raises eyebrow and shakes her head*

[raiderxx]: i cant get to that truechristan.com site. i want to see that for myself...

[Nimune]: mainly just a christian fanaticist taking the freedom of speech too far. It is sort of funny, though... there aren't many sites where pagans call for the eradication of christians. Pagans typically just ignore them until one goes too far...

[Davorah]: lol this is true...

[Dracotot]: doesnt need to check the site since ppl take it upon themselves to *cough* show wot they think of my spirituality

[Cati Stormweaver]: well still it really pisses me off that they think we worship Satan

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Yeah, that stereotype pisses me off, too...

[Anna-Rebecca]: It's so irritating! Not only that, but I was shopping for clothes the other day and came across this t-shirt that said 'I'm protected by Satan', and was decorated with a pentagram pointing upwards - a sign of good! No wonder people think we're all devil worshipers if manufacturers can't tell the difference between the signs of good and the signs of evil. Grrr

[raiderxx]: thats a load of bs! if your protected by satan then it would have an upside down pentagram! People just dont get it thats like saying that i am protected my the devil and having a cross!

[Anna-Rebecca]: exactly

[Cati Stormweaver]: is anyone here know how to become a fully pledged witch?

[Fireblade K'Chona]: AAAGH! Sorry. That wasn't for you, Cati. Grr. Maybe we should all write letters to the editors and ask for a clarifying article in all our chunks of the country?...

[Anna-Rebecca]: Yes, that would be a good idea if my local paper was so juvenile

[raiderxx]: thats actually not a bad idea! but then christains would think that w are trying to convert them...

[Nere]: um......you'd think christians would wake up and realise that Satan is apart of their faith.....not ours. Hello, pre christian faith! no satan...gods of death, yeah....but not a fallen angel that rules hell!

[Anna-Rebecca]: yeah, the tails of eternal hellfire are not exactly the nicest sunday school experience for kids

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: hmm just putting this here so when i get back from school the link is not gone... memo to me go to www.truechristian.com

[raiderxx]: i went on the site and sent the guy a looooooong email. not just for pagans but for jews and gays too. that guy isnt a christain... hes insane he doesnt deserve to be a pastor... my fingers are shaking im so enraged that hed even call himself a christain! my parents are christain. dont listen to him... most of them arent this bad...

[Nere]: *sighs* .....Whilst such fanatical ignorence is infuriating, i kinda pity people like that......obviously they are so insecure in their own faith that they feel the need to prove themselves beyond a doubt, by forcing others to their veiw. I also think that whilst a peaceful protestation against such people is in order....we shouldn't let it consume us to the point where we are as bad as them......We don't need to justify our belief by tainting others.....its a live and let live thing.  .. 0.o" that sounds corney doesn't it ? :P

[Nere]: well I replied.... :P anyone would think this pastor is ten years old and being put up to it by his parents.....WE'RE GREEN WITH MOLES!!!!! in total contrast to my earlier comment.....This guy has to be a F**king MORON!!!

[Davorah]: With all the information on anything a person can find on the internet, you'd think that someone would think to do a search and LEARN about something before they shoot it down....

[Davorah]: I went on google and searched for 'Wicca' and got a result of 971,000. I did a search on the word Pagan and I got a result of 2,660,000...hmmm with all that info floating around you'd think that someone would make use of it...ya know?

[raiderxx]: yeah... i bet hes never even talked to a pagan... would want to get too close to the "devil worshippers" we might put a "curse" on him...

[Nere]: or turn him GREEN!!!!..........!!!!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: Grrrr hes really mean and nasty... i would love to send him a looong email with more than enough profanity to last a lifetime... acually, i would like to speak with him to see what has made him belive this rubbish

[Davorah]: The person needs to learn how to spell as well...

[Davorah]: LOL! The guy (or whatever) said "How can the BIBLE be hateful"...Uhhh...In it God throws out Adam and Eve for eating from the tree of knowledge, and gaining knowledge...Um...I dont know about you but gods should support their followers gaining the knowledge that the gods know...

[Davorah]: I'm currently studying the bible and I plan on making a website that points out all the parts likening to that...a lot of Christians are gonna try to flame me about it...LOL! its okay...They wont touch me...I might "Curse them"...LOL!

[Davorah]: "What's worse than a Fag? Two Fags! How could anyone anyone be so ignorant? You fools! We aren't to allow these pedophiles to wed, we are to KILL THEM ALL!! Listen to the words of Love by Jesus Himself!" Um, last time I checked, a pedophile meant an older person wanting to have sex with younge people...What a horrible HORRIBLE person!

[Davorah]: "They are all Evil and since we are the Good guys here it is our DUTY to take away their "deserved rights" and show them for the slime God shows us that they are." This guy should be taken out back and shot in the head with a shotgun! He's Mad! He also quoted the bible "Leviticus 20: 13  If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." and took it LITERALLY...I hope this guy knows that Homosexualism has been going on since the dawn of man...WAAAAY before "God" or "Christ" came around...

[Davorah]: I sure hope this guy is a menonite...He says "Science is the Religion of Satan" Um, I hope he doesnt read the newspaper...(Printing press was a great scientific inovation) or drink coffee, thats science too, as well as INSTANT coffee...lol poor guy...I should email him with all the 'science' that is in the world nowadays...maybe he'll cry...

[raiderxx]: too bad he made a website... thats sortof techknowlegey too... (<-- cant spell...)

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: o... his coment on the passion of christ is just sooooo stupid it is hilarious

[Davorah]: LOL I havent Read it yet...I didnt have a chance this morning I had to get to school...LOL!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: I didnt have to go to school til 10! YEY... cause of HESPA testing.. hehehe

[Anna-Rebecca]: HESPA?

[Davorah]: I didnt have to go till 11am b/c of FCATs

[Anna-Rebecca]: GAH! what are all these crazy acronyms?

[raiderxx]: YEAH!! what anna said!

[Davorah]: LOL! I dont remember what the Acronym stands for but its basically a mini SAT test for the freshman and sophmores in Florida so I guess that it is the Florida C-something Aptitude Testing...*shrugs*

[raiderxx]: ooh ok *everyone* im calling that "pastor" tonight ill tell you guys how it turns out

[Davorah]: Your calling him? I dont think 'Calling' him is a good idea...lol calling people you dont know is not a good thing...

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: HESPA's like the same thing 4 juniors..

[raiderxx]: well i know that but il make an acception i want to argue with him not over email so i can hang up on him if he pisses me off (which he probably will cause im a "child eating satan worshiping" pagan...)

[Davorah]: LOL!!!! That would be funny , but you still need to be careful about calling people you dont know esp hostile folks like that guy...

[raiderxx]: i know my mom will be right there. shell take over if this thing gets outta hand *evil grin*

[Davorah]: LOL! AWESOME!!!!! now if your parents are invovled...thats a MUCH better story! you gotta tell us when its over! LOL!

[raiderxx]: yeah cant wait... im also waiting for him to reply to my email message im going to post it in my diary

[Davorah]: The TrueChristians guy is a damn neo-nazi...He says that Sdlof Hitler was a 'true Christian'....The Man was JEWISH for christ's sake!!!! LOL!

[Davorah]: "The 'Photoshoped' circle to the left..." He used a form of science! BURN HIM!!!! LOL! =p I'm finding new and hideousely funny crap on his web site everytime I visit! LOL!

[Davorah]: OMG! The dumbass says that the moon EMITS its own light....LOL!!!! The moon in fact does not...LOL! Ok I'm sure you're all VERY tired of my ranting...just go to his site and read all the rediculous nonsence that he spouts out his @ss...LOL! I am officially done LOL!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: LOL... it scares me though... how can someone be so hateful? :'(... i have to go talk to my friend... she will know how to deal with this guy... right now i am just too shocked to do anything... it took a while for what he was saying to really sink in...

[raiderxx]: no i think its funny cause he says in one of his letters that he doesnt curse yet he calls a lesbian a "shitty lesbian bitch" and then she calls him an asshole and he tells her "stop cursing you nigger lover

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: hahahahahahahahahaahhahhahahahahahahaha

[Davorah]: what an asshole...

[raiderxx]: tis very humoris

[Davorah]: humorous...

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: i know... sigh.... god damn ignorant peoples... i have NOTHING against christians (i mean my bf is a christian and i dont judge b4 i meet or know) and yet this man has everything against us....

[raiderxx]: hes not christain my whole family is christain... hes just plain crazy...

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: i know it sounds childish but it scares me that someone is like that... i guess i have been very sheltered in my life...

[raiderxx]: no it scares me too...

[Fireblade K'Chona]: ...he's nuts. *scared*  And...hey! Oi! *glares at the 'human vagina' symbol* Bud, you'd better not put where you live on you. If a girl read it when she was on, she would go hunt him down. I'm not even on and I want to go hunt him down. AAAAGH!

[Fireblade K'Chona]: And...gods above, he thinks we should burn. THAT'S NOT A HUMAN THOUGHT! I vote him insane.

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Anyone with me? He also thinks the earth is 6,000 years old...let me tell you, somehow, I'm starting to hope he's joking.

[raiderxx]: i vote him plain insane too!

[Fireblade K'Chona]: my full opinion: What a load of shit. Pure, unadulterated shit. I rank it up with the "know of hair" and the Pegacorn (half Pegasus, half unicorn that still looks human) that has Legolas fall in love with her. 

[raiderxx]: lol

[Cati Stormweaver]: i read on there, he called gay people fags, and he had on there that they we responsibal for the 9/11 attacks, he had a myth on there that said it was done beciase of religion, and he says thats not true, it was the gay people, he needs to watch the news, oh, and i looked at the comment for passion of the christ, funny...

[Fireblade K'Chona]: What does it say again? Refresh me.

[Cati Stormweaver]: about the passion comment, he said he liked it, but in the credits, there was a part that said the character we fictional, and he had a pic of it, and he kept saying mel gibson was a liar, and he had a pic of him, and the word liar pointing at him

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Oh yeah...

[raiderxx]: that was pretty funny

[Davorah]: the guy is plain sad

[raiderxx]: yeah... he should be put into a white padded room

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: dont forget the straitjacket...

[raiderxx]: ooh yeah!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: the straitjacket is a MUST!!! hehehehe and then we BURN the room... jk

[Cati Stormweaver]: yeah, this guy thinks hes a great christain, but hes kinda putting a really bad name on them

[Nere]: lol....everyone seems to voicing the comments I sent to him in an email....although i only responded to the pagan page....haven't read the rest yet....i was too pissed off! I'll put what I sent in my diary....with a disclaimer....if you want to read...although i didn't address everything he said....at least i made a lasting impression on my mum :P

[Davorah]: lol! I sent the site to my dad and he laughed his ass off

[Nere]: yeah..... looking back, most of the crap he writes is juvenile....what a wanker....

[Davorah]: Perfect Web site to send to the TrueChristians Guy: http://www.freethinkerscs.com/articles/presnotchristian.html

[Davorah]: I have millions more 'Pro-other religions' webbies...I'm going through them now looking for the best ones...LOL!

[Nere]: yeah...another bee in his bonnet.....i think i might launch a minnie campaign against this guy.

[Davorah]: I'll be right next to you helping as much as I possibly can...

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: Ill be there too

[raiderxx]: count me in too

[Davorah]: Ooo Nere is amassing an army...LOL!

[Davorah]: Hey raider did you call that guy?

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Let's campaign! Someone put the link up there so we can use it for reference! Guild of Pagan Campaigning, we can call it.

[Anna-Rebecca]: I just sent him an email, since I used to be a Christian, telling him how he was going to hell for hating nearly everyone except members of the NRA. How the hell could they go to heaven? Half of them are murderers!

[Davorah]: this is true

[Anna-Rebecca]: and he says jews are going to hell! Half my family are jewish and they ARE god's chosen people (according to the bible)

[Davorah]: LOL! Tell him Jesus, Mary AND Joseph were all Jewish...

[Anna-Rebecca]: I did. I also told him that his idea of god hating people is stupid because christian scriptures say that god loves everyone

[vagabond faery]: that truechristians.com site is stupid, I saw it too. They were all "we must wipe out anyone who is not as stuffy and small minded as us". What weirdos!

[Cati Stormweaver]: yeah and hes says what does god like better than one dead fag? 2 dead fags! god doesnt like anyone dead...

[raiderxx]: no i didnt my mom found out that i had a French exam the next day... ill try today.... ALL MUST UNITE AGAINST EVIL MAN!!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: YES!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: Bombard him with comments... ect... i might go to that message board...

[raiderxx]: meh... the mesage boards are rigged...

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: really? how so??

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Yeah, how?

[raiderxx]: um... he doesnt want any anti christain comments of any sort. and hes allowed to change what we say if he wants...

[raiderxx]: we should make a wiki just for this guy

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Yeah. We should. Campaigning against the TrueChristian guy. (Or maybe we should do a joke and "support" him...)

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: i have a wiki Against TrueChristian.com

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: theres really nothing there yet though

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Will be there shortly.

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: COOL! feel free to make changes!!

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Yay!

[Nere]: ..........and We said "Let there be no small minded megalomaniacs that go un-punished." And it was so...... :P

[Anna-Rebecca]: and lo, the bigot was banished from the kingdom of heaven forever and the pagans did rejoice....

[Nere]: ....and a new world was born unto those children, forever blessed in the light and dark of eternity.....

[Anna-Rebecca]: ..and the 'true christian' did burn in the firey depths of purgatory...

[raiderxx]: and all the pagans lived happily ever after to the end of their days" ^_^

[Davorah]: SO MOTE IT BE!

[raiderxx]: and so it shall!

[Fireblade K'Chona]: Whee!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: and so it shall! YEY!

[Davorah]: *bows*

[Nere]: lauhgs* I wrote to one of the emails at the end of the home page....mara something.....she wrote me back saying that her email was up there because she called him a demon! It seems we are not the only ones who find this site distastful :P

[Davorah]: LOL!

[Davorah]: I wonder if he knows that by posting an 'enemys' email up on the page, he is letting us concregate...and we can rise up against him...LOL!

[Our Lady of Sorrow]: hahaha... we shall rise!

[Lady In Black]: LOL! Should've come back a bit sooner, I would've had quite a bit to say on the subject of that site... But, that guy's an extremist. The religion isn't exactly like that... though, to me, it might as well be...

[raiderxx]: where is the enemies email? i didnt see it...

[Nere]: right down the bottom of the home page i think it was......and there's one to a witch...but her email doesn't work.....wise move by her....:P

[Davorah]: indeed!

[Nimune]: understand that that guy is a real nutcase, right up there with me. except he is a bad nutcase. I am a good nutcase. I think. Maybe not.

[Davorah]: ya your not a bad nutcase...you dont have a link to the KKK on your website like he does...

[Nere]: ...... he's just outright evil.......

[Nimune]: nah, just needs to loosen up a bit... he should talk to me for 20 minutes. does he have an account on elftown?

[Davorah]: No...He would probably think that since it has the word 'Elf' in the name, he'll think its Satan...and he'd prolly try to "spread HIS word of Christ" if he were a member so he would be banned...lol

[Nere]: Nim...the guy asserts that the world is flat....so unless i'm a figment of your ....imagination, you couldn't convince him of anything ....

[Nimune]: *rubs his hands in glee* I really need to talk to this guy. I almost like him.

[Davorah]: LOL! you gonna make him cry Nim?

[Nimune]: Ill break his psyche apart into little bite-sized pieces, then incinerate them.

[Nere]: ....what kind of christian believes that the Flintstones cartoon is a artists rendering of what it was like when "humans lived with dinosuars" ,....anti evolutionist moron...

[Nimune]: this guy sounds like a severly messed up sixteen year old that got beat by aetheist parents.

[Cati Stormweaver]: his nephew is on here

[Nimune]: where?

[Nere]: yes where.......

[Nimune]: PLEASE TELL US!

[Cati Stormweaver]: [browin]

[Nimune]: something makes me think that he is not waht you say he is...

[Nere]: could it be the whole "Antichrist" bit?

[Nimune]: not that, but more along the lines of the one thing that scares him. He replied 'christians' I sympathize, but that cannot come without absence from a religion for a long period of time.

[Nere]: ...um..did you go to the truechristian webpage on him...it tells people to shoot him on sight....i'd be f***** scared of them too.....

[Nimune]: hmm...

[Anna-Rebecca]: Do you think the true christian guy knows that a) (with regard to flintstones comment) that people never lived with the dinosaurs, they died out hundreds of thousands of years before humans evolved! and b) the passion of christ is a god damn MOVIE!

[Nere]: oh no....evolution is just something the *gags with disgust* "niggerloving liberals" invented to undermine christianity........I really HATE this guy...which is saying something, cause I generally don't waste my energy hating people....

[Anna-Rebecca]: I didn't think I was capable of hating people, but this guy is just so screwed up! Last time I checked Christianity was a loving, passive religion. Nowhere in the bible does it say 'thou shalt kill those who don't agree with you'. Also, do you think I should distress him further by reminding him that Jesus was probably black?

[Nere]: i think it would be pointless....he's obviously too deluded and insane to appreciate reality..... I'm just waiting to see if my email ends up on his website with an encouragment to email me about punishing myself :P